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2:27 pm
March 7, 2009


Daniel Bachhuber

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If you were to modify the backend of WordPress to fit your newsroom's workflow better, what changes would you make? Would you want a complex digital newsroom like Populous, or something like what Miles built for the Daily Gazette?

Throw some ideas in when you have the chance. This might be the first code project CoPress takes on, and will be powered by your creativity. Thanks!

7:39 pm
March 8, 2009


miles

Member

posts 6

One of my (few) frustrations with WordPress is user management—when you have hundreds of users, it becomes very difficult to manage those users, and things like the drop down menu for selecting authors becomes more and more unwieldy.

That said, this is something a plugin can fix up pretty easily.

11:51 pm
March 8, 2009


Andrew Spittle

Walla Walla, WA

Moderator

posts 49

I agree with Miles: user management is the most frustrating part of WordPress. Not only do the dropdowns become unwieldly, but the way WordPress handles authors is also frustrating.

The top feature I would like to see solved by a plugin is the ability to add multiple authors to a post. I know that this plugin allows for multiple authors to collaborate on a post, but what I want is a plugin that gives an admin the ability to set two values as Post Author.

Andrew – andrew@copress.org – CoPress Hosting Director – http://www.andrewspittle.net

4:42 pm
March 9, 2009


Mo Jangda

Toronto, ON

Member

posts 35

@aspittle: The Co-Author plugin allows you to add multiple authors. It doesn't get rid of the drop-down issue, but it's a step in the right direction.

Link: http://wordpress.org/extend/pl…..o-authors/

5:07 pm
March 9, 2009


Daniel Bachhuber

Admin

posts 102

For Andrew and Mo, do your workflows involve other people working within the CMS, or do you just copy and paste content in? Do you think it will involve other people in the future?

12:02 am
March 11, 2009


EmilyKostic

New Member

posts 1

My newsroom's only concern with WordPress's ability to create an effective workflow is when it comes to having multiple people in a post at the same time. We're constantly having to tell one another to "get out" so that someone can continue working. Other than that, the pending review/drafts area of WordPress is really effective in making things work. Our only trouble is with the lack of multiple user capabilites but it's something we're getting used to.

3:05 am
March 11, 2009


Mo Jangda

Toronto, ON

Member

posts 35

I have two perspectives to give since I work with two separate publications: Imprint is a daul-print/online newspaper (currently powered by a heavily modded version of Mambo), and The Boar an online-only publication.

For both, most of the writing is done primarily offline (i.e. Word), and copy-pasted into the CMS. In the case of Imprint (the newspaper), it's written offline first, laid out in InDesign, and then copy-pasted over. This is not really optimal as it's a tedious task that no one really wants to do. I did some work on potentially trying to ease the pain of uploading content from the print edition through some clever scripting and plugin development. Bugs aside, it wasn't really a good long-term solution. The paper is still very print-focused but we're slowly pushing into more getting more web-specific content and as we do, we'll likely start looking at editing print articles for the web, which will likely be where workflow tools will especially come in handy.

With The Boar, we've started to shift some of our workflow online. While stuff is still copy-pasted over, we're using the draft functionality (as Emily mentioned) for some final stage editing and final approval from the EIC, at which point a post is published.


For a long time now, I've had the vision of developing a CMS that acts as a hub between the print and online editions. I think all content should be centrally stored in a manner that's kept up-to-date and distributable across formats (publish to web via XML-RFC, publish to InDesign/Quark/etc. via XML). Ours is scattered everywhere, across emails, networked drives, different file formats, and it's all a mess really. Of course, building such a system is easier said than done.

I wanted to point out an app started by some former college journalists called writewith which was built initially as a writing workflow tool for journalists. It's a fascinating tool and I think there's a lot that you can pick up from it for building a WordPress workflow plugin. It's still online, though it seems like the development is defunct. There are obvious problems with it, namely that a lot of work (namely copyediting) is still done best offline. But there are ways to work with/around these.

So I guess as a summary of my rambling, I'm all for a digital newsroom like Populous — one that combines story and asset management and publishing (to both print and web). In the end though, I guess it depends on the needs/culture of your newsroom and any workflow changes you do make, do so gradually. A former EIC of Imprint a few years back built an app much like Miles' that helped manage story assignments; but come launch time he backed out and dropped the project saying, "The volunteers just aren't ready for it."

4:02 pm
March 12, 2009


Daniel Bachhuber

Admin

posts 102

Mo, it's funny that you mention writewith because I've actually been in conversation with a co-founder, Eric Eldon, for quite some time. He has a number of ideas which would make for a more baller digital newsroom workflow too. In my opinion, however, there are varying levels of complexity in terms of the tool set, and I'd like to work on identifying the different tiers of feature sets for what people need (as well as the resources required to implement them).

In an ideal world, and this might be where Steve Buttry at the Gazette is headed, I think you would have a tool that serves as the management hub for people, resources, and content. It would serve as the nexus of the news organization's operation and track story assignments, contributions from the community, leads, etc. It would be the meta tool for activity within the organization. 

In the interim, however, it would be sweet to map out a development timeline for incorporating some of these features into WordPress.


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