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><channel><title>CoPress &#187; CMS audit</title> <atom:link href="http://www.copress.org/tag/cms-audit/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.copress.org</link> <description>Building a Better Technical Ecosystem for Student News Organizations</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:46:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1</generator> <image><title>CoPress</title> <url>http://www.copress.org/media/2009/01/copress_100x100_notrans.png</url><link>http://www.copress.org</link> <width>100</width> <height>100</height> <description>Building a Better Technical Ecosystem for Student News Organizations</description> </image> <copyright>2006-2007 </copyright> <managingEditor>website@copress.org (CoPress)</managingEditor> <webMaster>website@copress.org (CoPress)</webMaster> <image> <url>http://host.copresshosting.com/~copress/main/wp-content/plugins/podpress/images/powered_by_podpress.jpg</url><title>CoPress &#187; CMS audit</title><link>http://www.copress.org</link> <width>144</width> <height>144</height> </image> <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle> <itunes:summary>Building a better technical ecosystem for student news organizations</itunes:summary> <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords> <itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture" /> <itunes:author>CoPress</itunes:author> <itunes:owner> <itunes:name>CoPress</itunes:name> <itunes:email>website@copress.org</itunes:email> </itunes:owner> <itunes:block>no</itunes:block> <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit> <itunes:image href="http://host.copresshosting.com/~copress/main/wp-content/plugins/podpress/images/powered_by_podpress_large.jpg" /> <item><title>Questions from the updated KNC08 application</title><link>http://www.copress.org/2008/10/14/questions-from-the-updated-knc08-application/</link> <comments>http://www.copress.org/2008/10/14/questions-from-the-updated-knc08-application/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:54:07 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Team Announcements]]></category> <category><![CDATA[CMS audit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[College Publisher]]></category> <category><![CDATA[funding]]></category> <category><![CDATA[innovation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Knight News Challenge]]></category> <category><![CDATA[open source]]></category> <category><![CDATA[organization development]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Populous Project]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.copress.org/?p=130</guid> <description><![CDATA[Yesterday I took an hour or so to synthesis one thing I&#8217;ve been working on, the Organizational Development Roadmap [Google Doc], in to responses that better fit the questions on our Knight News Challenge application. Right off the bat, Ryan Sholin responded with questions I thought it would be easier to clarify in a blog [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I took an hour or so to synthesis one thing I&#8217;ve been working on, the <a
href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgvdfc9r_3g58zb4x9">Organizational Development Roadmap [Google Doc]</a>, in to responses that better fit <a
href="http://garage.newschallenge.org/projects/copress">the questions on our Knight News Challenge application</a>. Right off the bat, <a
href="http://ryansholin.com/">Ryan Sholin</a> responded with <a
href="http://garage.newschallenge.org/projects/copress/description/copress-building-better-ecosystem#comments">questions</a> I thought it would be easier to clarify in a blog post. First, he says:</p><blockquote><p>1. OK, you need two years and more money.</p><p>The first year, you can roll out a prototype school or three in the fall, a few more in the spring, and by the time the next summer rolls around, you have a service you&#8217;ve taken a school year to develop and improve before you bring it out on a larger scale.</p></blockquote><p>To this, I partially agree. Currently, we&#8217;re asking for $70,000 from the Knight News Challenge and have a time scale of one year. I am opposed, at the moment, to asking for more money than I think is necessary. We have little understanding of what our costs will be (plus I&#8217;m sure they will scale over time) and the other applications in the garage that have asked for hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions, seem outlandish. I don&#8217;t want CoPress to be taken as an outlandish project.</p><p>For me, the one year qualifies the amount of time it will take to build part of something cool. CoPress, by no means, would be &#8220;finished&#8221; at the end of the first year. A year, though, sounds good for project scope and two years sounds too long.</p><p>Second, Ryan asks:</p><blockquote><p>2. Other than it feeling warm and fuzzy, being based on open-source software and thus extensible, what&#8217;s the advantage to a student news org to use this instead of College Publisher? It&#8217;s free, and hosted, and if you ever get enough traffic, there&#8217;s a rev share on the national ads, right? How is this different. (I&#8217;d emphasize that it will be built on a platform that students can learn and adapt to their own needs, right?)</p></blockquote><p>Boy, do I ever agree with you. As I&#8217;ve written <a
href="http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/">before</a> and <a
href="http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/13/the-plot-thickens/">before</a>, &#8220;hackability&#8221; is critical. Student news organizations need to be working on an open source platform (or, bowing to Kevin, Ken, and Expression Engine, at least one with a plugin architecture) so that they have the ability to innovate as fast as they can. If anyone tries to argue with me that student news organizations don&#8217;t need digital distribution platforms they can innovate with, I won&#8217;t listen to you. The software College Publisher uses is, from all of my experiences, clunky, janky, and proprietary. We&#8217;ll win people over when we show them we have an easy-t-deploy, maintainable, and open and innovate platform to use. Hell, we&#8217;re friendly too.</p><p>At the moment, we&#8217;re not working on a national ad network, although ability to deploy ads will be functionality we provide in some capacity. I&#8217;ve heard rumors that there is another group working on the ad coop, however.</p><blockquote><p>3. If you&#8217;re going to offer hosting, that&#8217;s going to cost money to maintain after a News Challenge grant would run out. What&#8217;s the business plan moving forward? And if you&#8217;re not going to offer hosting, what super-easy-to-install platform are you going to build the service on?</p><p>(WordPress or Drupal? Maybe&#8230; An Ellington-like Django-based CMS would actually be difficult, unless the student news orgs in question all have access to and control of their servers.)</p></blockquote><p>The business plan is being worked out. Currently, we&#8217;re looking at a few different potential revenue streams:</p><ul><li>Fee for service: core CoPress developers offer technical support (database porting, site theming, temporary support if you don&#8217;t have an online editor for a term, etc.) for affordable rates.</li><li>Flat rate fee for basic hosting, management, and support</li><li>Grants and donation drives; foundation support</li><li>Using <a
href="http://www.thepoint.com/">The Point</a> for raising money for plugins/add&#8217;l functionality; money raised will fund development by a web developer from the CoPress community</li></ul><p>And it&#8217;s funny you ask about what platform we&#8217;re going to use. We&#8217;re in the process of researching the best one for our needs through our surveys and CMS audit. We&#8217;ve developed a <a
href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dpq5d5f_0fs7zxbcw">list of what we think is critical functionality [Google Doc]</a>, and are in the process of researching how well Drupal, WordPress, Django, and/or Ruby on Rails could be hacked to fit these needs.</p><p>The million dollar question:</p><blockquote><p>4. One of the winners last year is building a CMS/community network tool (plus some front-end print scheduling?) for student media. How is this different (hosting? other services?) and why is it (also) necessary?</p></blockquote><p>Ryan, I think what you&#8217;re referring to is the <a
href="http://populousproject.com/">Populous Project</a>. We actually were talking with them about a month and a half ago, but haven&#8217;t heard anything since. What we&#8217;re doing is similar in the CMS sense (although we preferably won&#8217;t be building an entire CMS from scratch) but different in approach: we&#8217;re focusing on the technical ecosystem first. The medium to long term survival of CoPress requires a vibrant ecosystem of student Online Editors, etc. because they&#8217;re going to be the ones hacking away, educating and supporting each other, and advancing innovation in student news.</p><p>We&#8217;re working together in an open, transparent, and collaborative fashion, and that&#8217;s how we&#8217;re different.</p><p><strong>Update:</strong> Oddly enough, the CoPress Google Group received an email from one of the Populous Project grantees a couple of hours ago in regards to why we shouldn&#8217;t consider Ruby on Rails. Hopefully we&#8217;ll hear more about their development soon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.copress.org/2008/10/14/questions-from-the-updated-knc08-application/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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