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Notes from #ncmc09 – The Populous Project (Thursday, 2pm)

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This week, CoPress directors Daniel Bachhuber, Andrew Spittle, Lauren Rabaino and Adam Hemphill are attending the National College Media Convention in Austin, Texas. These are reports from the field. For more updates, follow the conversation on Twitter.

In the “Townsquare” session, led by Arvil Ward and Anthony Pesce, the Populous Project was demoed. The Populous Project is a Knight News Challenge funded project that is working to build a content management system for student news publications based on Django.

Among the technologies demoed were the Digital Newsroom, which is a system of tracking story assignments that is currently implemented by the UCLA Daily Bruin. As Arvil said, “this provides a communication tool with the ability to manage the newsroom online.” It has threaded commenting for story ideas and notifications for when an assignment changes. Interestingly, it is not yet integrated with the content management system and how closely it will be able to manage content is to be determined.

Also demoed was Campuswalk, UCLA’s project to create a unified, cohesive, and searchable campus gateway. The current system is not up to the task in the eyes of Arvil and they’re working hard at building something better. It will make professor reviews, housing reviews, and swapping books more social.

The final piece of the demo was Localresearch.com. Arvil described this as focused marketing to small local businesses that seeks to reinvent the decreasing value of print advertising. They provide a database of local business listings and for $45 a month they work with companies to create more full-featured listings that include links to social media, reviews, and more.

This Week in CoPress: Django CMS roundtable

Host: Adam Hemphill

Guests: Anthony Pesce, Miles Skorpen, Joseph Agreda, Max Cutler, Justin Myers, Rick Martinez, David Estes

Summary: Excerpts from a roundtable discussion among student developers from across the country regarding Django-based content management systems (and a Ruby On Rails system from FIUSM). The entire conversation is available as a MP3 download.

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This Week in CoPress: Anthony Pesce and Darmishta Rood – the Populous Project

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Host(s): Bryan Murley, Joey Baker, Daniel Bachhuber and David Estes

Guest(s): Anthony Pesce and Dharmishta Rood

Summary: A discussion about the development of the Populous Project – a Knight-funded college-specific content management system.

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Questions from the updated KNC08 application

Yesterday I took an hour or so to synthesis one thing I’ve been working on, the Organizational Development Roadmap [Google Doc], in to responses that better fit the questions on our Knight News Challenge application. Right off the bat, Ryan Sholin responded with questions I thought it would be easier to clarify in a blog post. First, he says:

1. OK, you need two years and more money.

The first year, you can roll out a prototype school or three in the fall, a few more in the spring, and by the time the next summer rolls around, you have a service you’ve taken a school year to develop and improve before you bring it out on a larger scale.

To this, I partially agree. Currently, we’re asking for $70,000 from the Knight News Challenge and have a time scale of one year. I am opposed, at the moment, to asking for more money than I think is necessary. We have little understanding of what our costs will be (plus I’m sure they will scale over time) and the other applications in the garage that have asked for hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions, seem outlandish. I don’t want CoPress to be taken as an outlandish project.

For me, the one year qualifies the amount of time it will take to build part of something cool. CoPress, by no means, would be “finished” at the end of the first year. A year, though, sounds good for project scope and two years sounds too long.

Second, Ryan asks:

2. Other than it feeling warm and fuzzy, being based on open-source software and thus extensible, what’s the advantage to a student news org to use this instead of College Publisher? It’s free, and hosted, and if you ever get enough traffic, there’s a rev share on the national ads, right? How is this different. (I’d emphasize that it will be built on a platform that students can learn and adapt to their own needs, right?)

Boy, do I ever agree with you. As I’ve written before and before, “hackability” is critical. Student news organizations need to be working on an open source platform (or, bowing to Kevin, Ken, and Expression Engine, at least one with a plugin architecture) so that they have the ability to innovate as fast as they can. If anyone tries to argue with me that student news organizations don’t need digital distribution platforms they can innovate with, I won’t listen to you. The software College Publisher uses is, from all of my experiences, clunky, janky, and proprietary. We’ll win people over when we show them we have an easy-t-deploy, maintainable, and open and innovate platform to use. Hell, we’re friendly too.

At the moment, we’re not working on a national ad network, although ability to deploy ads will be functionality we provide in some capacity. I’ve heard rumors that there is another group working on the ad coop, however.

3. If you’re going to offer hosting, that’s going to cost money to maintain after a News Challenge grant would run out. What’s the business plan moving forward? And if you’re not going to offer hosting, what super-easy-to-install platform are you going to build the service on?

(WordPress or Drupal? Maybe… An Ellington-like Django-based CMS would actually be difficult, unless the student news orgs in question all have access to and control of their servers.)

The business plan is being worked out. Currently, we’re looking at a few different potential revenue streams:

  • Fee for service: core CoPress developers offer technical support (database porting, site theming, temporary support if you don’t have an online editor for a term, etc.) for affordable rates.
  • Flat rate fee for basic hosting, management, and support
  • Grants and donation drives; foundation support
  • Using The Point for raising money for plugins/add’l functionality; money raised will fund development by a web developer from the CoPress community

And it’s funny you ask about what platform we’re going to use. We’re in the process of researching the best one for our needs through our surveys and CMS audit. We’ve developed a list of what we think is critical functionality [Google Doc], and are in the process of researching how well Drupal, WordPress, Django, and/or Ruby on Rails could be hacked to fit these needs.

The million dollar question:

4. One of the winners last year is building a CMS/community network tool (plus some front-end print scheduling?) for student media. How is this different (hosting? other services?) and why is it (also) necessary?

Ryan, I think what you’re referring to is the Populous Project. We actually were talking with them about a month and a half ago, but haven’t heard anything since. What we’re doing is similar in the CMS sense (although we preferably won’t be building an entire CMS from scratch) but different in approach: we’re focusing on the technical ecosystem first. The medium to long term survival of CoPress requires a vibrant ecosystem of student Online Editors, etc. because they’re going to be the ones hacking away, educating and supporting each other, and advancing innovation in student news.

We’re working together in an open, transparent, and collaborative fashion, and that’s how we’re different.

Update: Oddly enough, the CoPress Google Group received an email from one of the Populous Project grantees a couple of hours ago in regards to why we shouldn’t consider Ruby on Rails. Hopefully we’ll hear more about their development soon.

Hi, I’m a “Web Designer”

I have the honor of writing the first official post for those of us here at coPress (the ‘About page’ and ‘Hello World’ non-withstanding). I’m a wordy guy, and I love to read myself write. But, there’s a lot to say.
I had originally intended this to be an end-all, be-all post about all things CMS and coPress related. I’ll spare you the endless scrolling for now, and break my thoughts up into several posts. I’ll try to summarize a lot of the things I’ve been saying within coPress and make an argument for UCLA’s Populous Project — which I’m very excited about.
To kick this off, and introduction to…

Content Management Systems

In becoming involved with this project, I’ve come to realize that people have varying levels of technical expertise (duh) and misconceptions about the world of web design. Let me clear the air a little bit and try to dispel some of the common fears and misconceptions I’ve been hearing.

Designers are to Developers…

When someone introduces themself as a ‘web designer,’ ask them if they’re a designer, or a developer.
Yankees, Mets. Coke, Pepsi. Bush, Logic (kidding). Designers, Developers. In every Web site ever created, there has been a struggle between code and design.
Designers want a site that looks … pretty. But they also worry about HMI, UI, and accessibility — there’s a science to that.
Developers are engineers and immersed in the science that is code. But, make no mistake: clean code is an art form.
Disclaimer: I’m a designer. I specialize in clean, minimalist design that is user driven. I hate to make compromises in design because the code is messy. I believe that design should drive code, not the other way around.

CMS

Content management systems are the new way of developing Web sites. They allow developers to do all of the coding work so that the Average Joe can login and add content to the site without knowing any HTML.
Let your fears be assuaged — any CMS that we develop will be as simple to use as any system you’re on now; quite probably easier — if we do our jobs right.
The plan is to be better than College Publisher: faster, easier to use, more modern and ad revenue sharing free. We can accomplish this relatively easily — CP set the bar pretty low.

All your old stuff

A lot of folks have rightly voiced fears about porting their old content over to a new CMS. Rest assured, this can be done.
Folks like College Publisher can’t deny you access to your own (copyrighted) data. There have been several schools that have successfully transitioned off College Publisher onto other platforms. Our CMS will make this process as painless as possible.

Opensource

Ever have a piece of software that does 90 percent of what you want, but just refuses to have that one feature that would make it a killer app? Maybe you’ve been dealing with a really annoying bug in the program for years, and just wish the darn manufacturer would fix it. Opensource is a deceptively simple solution to a common problem: sustainability.
By giving the code behind an program to anyone that wants it, open source ensures that there will be a community of developers fixing bugs and creating new features.
Yes, you’ll have to know code to contribute — but at least you can. That feature you always wanted? It’s a snap to find/hire someone for the few hours of work it takes to add that feature. It’s a lot easier than creating a new program from scratch.
By making our CMS open source, we can virtually guarantee that it will be supported as long as papers continue to use it.

We’re all good

Changing something as critical as your Web site is a huge step — with inherent risks. The important thing to take away from CoPress is that we’re aware of these risks and are will minimize them enough so you won’t have to worry about disaster.

To Come:

  • The Pro-Easy: Why Wordpress is not a sustainable solution and Django is
  • Populous: Pre-alpha impressions
  • CoPress.com: How we’ll make this a sustainable solution